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#149245: "Movement Token moves the Rat but it does not seem to have actually moved"

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12. Dec 2024 22:51 • TheInquisitor • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Please view the recording from this link. Note that the link will expire within 48 hours I believe.
streamable.com/qlgpqu

13. Dec 2024 12:20 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Hi, thanks for the report and also the video! I can see from the log it says you didn't move any worker, so it would make sense it didn't update the main action value. What's weird is that I can't replicate this, if I load the game and do the exact same thing you did in the video, everything goes smoothly. Did you change any other variable? Do you have any browser extension that could block the website from saving data?

13. Dec 2024 12:25 • TheInquisitor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

> Did you change any other variable?

Don't think so though I am not sure what would be considered a variable here.

> Do you have any browser extension that could block the website from saving data?

No, I don't have any extensions that block ads or deal with JavaScript in any way.

I just tried it and it doesn't work so I guess there must be some browser caching or oddity at play. I guess we'll see if someone else ends up opening a similar bug in the future perhaps...?

13. Dec 2024 13:10 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

If it still happens it has to be some issue with rogue session variables. If you're in any way aware of how to use the chrome DevTools (the tab that pops out when you press the F12 key) I could ask you to check a value for me there while the bug is happening. If you're not, no matter, I'm sure that if it's an actual issue it will pop up again and people will add their experience and bring more data.

15. Dec 2024 01:11 • TheInquisitor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Just got hit by this in 599686605 (move 175).

TheInquisitor started an action: Use Movement Token.
TheInquisitor paid 1 Movement Token
TheInquisitor spent a Movement Token to move one of their workers.
TheInquisitor started an action: Use Movement Token.
TheInquisitor paid 1 Movement Token
TheInquisitor spent a Movement Token to move one of their workers.

I used two movement tokens to do nothing. Since I didn't realize this I got to a point where I could no longer undo to reclaim my tokens.

Could you add a check on the movement so that the Confirm button is disabled unless a Rat was actually moved?
Or alternatively if no Rats were moved provide a confirmation question that a token will be used without actually moved any Rat?

Thank you for considering this suggestion.

16. Dec 2024 15:34 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Hi, but..did you actually press the confirm button? That's a UX improvement maybe but it's not the culprit here, is it? From what I can remember from the video you never actually got to move any workers, the confirm button was not involved, right? The issue is I really, really can't get this to happen nor has anyone else reported the issue, so it's really hard to understand why you weren't afforded a move action.

16. Dec 2024 15:36 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

And by the way the Confirm button improvement wouldn't have saved you here, from the video I remember the workers were moving in the UI, so the game clearly thinks you are moving, it's just the server which fails to register the confirmation or receives bogus data somehow.

16. Dec 2024 22:58 • TheInquisitor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

> Hi, but..did you actually press the confirm button?

I don't remember.

> TheInquisitor spent a Movement Token to move one of their workers.

How is this generated? The UI/server should not allow a move that doesn't actually move anything. Usually you'd get a "moved from Farm to Lair" or something but there's nothing here at all.

17. Dec 2024 02:39 • TheInquisitor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

> Hi, but..did you actually press the confirm button?

Not sure about the 599686605 case. But I rewatched my recording and I did click on the Confirm button.

17. Dec 2024 10:25 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

> How is this generated?

It's because it's a two step action. You'll notice you can spend a movement token, change your mind, you get back a "move worker" action, that doesn't get used if you cancel it for some reason. The notification you see is from that action starting, but you don't get the notification from that action completing. Somehow this gets interrupted halfway.

I wonder why this is so rare though.

17. Dec 2024 17:13 • TheInquisitor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Here's another video.
streamable.com/63cu74

Yeah, I don't know why it seems to only be happening to me. It's pretty annoying and will really screw up your Main Action. :(

17. Dec 2024 17:59 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

This is so weird and inconsistent. We're going into beta in a few days, hopefully (?) someone else reports this so I can pinpoint it, because it really has never happened to me and I guess no other reports seem to indicate something that could be specific to your browser or..maybe the fact you're playing a lot of games?

The only issue is I'm probably taking a break from development during the Christmas holidays, so I hope nothing too big pops up at the same time right now.

4. Jan 2025 17:07 • TheInquisitor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Not moved:
moveWorker.html?lock=7414fd68-7272-4d12-8bdc-17bb6f60898d&forest=0&farm=2&lair=0&table=610249447&noerrortracking=true&dojo.preventCache=1736006618195

Moved:
moveWorker.html?lock=72165723-0254-472b-81df-3283d015e9c7&forest=0&farm=0&lair=2&table=610249447&noerrortracking=true&dojo.preventCache=1736006670497

We can see from the network requests when nothing happens vs when stuff gets moved. It feels to me like if we send a request back to the server that does not suggest any state was changed then the server should reject the call. I'm not sure if there's a practical reason for someone to want to purposely burn movement tokens.

7. Jan 2025 14:43 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Activating the token gives you an action, which you can use or not, it does not move the Workers by itself (try spending a token, you get into a move Workers action, cancel the move action, you'll see it's still there as a usable option until you pass the turn).

As for where it breaks for you, it was my guess as well that the issue is client-side, I just never was able to replicate it to actually see what may be wrong in my js code which feels fine to me.

15. Jan 2025 23:29 • TheInquisitor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

I saw a popup just now saying like "The mouse you tried to move is not allowed" or something but it ultimately still allowed me to confirm. Refreshing the page showed the mice did not move.

Was that a new error dialog you are/were trying to implement to help with this weird bug?

16. Jan 2025 12:04 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Hi, no I haven't really ever found anything about this one, and it never happened to me. If you saw a popup regarding that action it must have been a safeguard that I had already added previously. Has this kept happening to you?

16. Jan 2025 13:12 • TheInquisitor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

It hasn't been happening as much for me but if I see it again I'll post back.

25. Jan 2025 02:36 • jcubedvisions • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

This is also happening to me. I have tried spending the movement token, moving the mouse, and then when I try to take the action, it moves the mouse back to its original location. It's stuck. I cannot take the action I need to take.

Table #615099472
Move #195

27. Jan 2025 14:00 • xevizero • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Hi jcubedvisions, did you remember to press the Confirm button at the top?

2. Oct 2025 17:50 • honmayan • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

When using a move token, you can select the command before the move, but you cannot select the destination.

2. Oct 2025 18:16 • DjAroem • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

like honmayan said before, it happens to me too..

imgur.com/a/6s7eHMX

2. Oct 2025 22:46 • helmsky • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

I used a Movement Token to move a Rat from the Farm to the Lair.

3. Oct 2025 04:17 • DjAroem • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Hmm.. I tried this and actually work
Use move token > click the worker space u want to move > click the destination > confirm > and then refresh the game

Suddenly worker move to destination space 😵‍💫

3. Oct 2025 15:26 • xevizero • Bug er blevet fixet:

Hi, sorry for the inconvenience. Sadly an update on BGA's server code caused some games to break and Rats of Wistar was one of the ones getting hit. I'm working to restore functionality. Let me know if other game functions are still breaking.

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