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#24131: "Logs contain all tricks when manual is explicit about only being able to go through the last one"

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9. Sep 2020 01:24 • panaggio • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Jaipur has a similar issue (you could easily go through logs and count cards and chips on another player's hand), so BGA's implementation hides anything but the last entry on the logs.

9. Sep 2020 19:40 • phyphor • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

It's a co-operative game, so keeping information visible that's already been made public isn't a bad thing.
Letting people keep checking the discard instead of playing, could be bad, but that isn't an issue in a digital version.

4. Oct 2020 04:18 • Remi_R • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

The boardgame is also a co-operative game... I think if the conceptor put it as a rules it's because else it's making the cooperative game too much easy and then its decreasing the interest and the challenge which is an important part of a cooperative game.

5. Oct 2020 13:33 • jade_alarm • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This is standard for online games, and necessary if you're playing asynchronously.

5. Oct 2020 23:04 • Scott_Bailey • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

With asynchronous play, only the last player would know what cards were played.

*If* a mechanism were created to show the last hand, that would satisfy this requirement; however, it would add significant bookkeeping for players.

It seems better to allow those players wanting the greater challenge to ignore the log.

14. Oct 2020 20:02 • dcorbin • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

What a player should be able to see is the current trick, and the contents of the last trick. Nothing more. Granted, it will be pretty had to card-count in asynchronous play. BGA should support it like it is in real life,a nd if you (which it does not) and then allow a variant like "full game log" to support asynchronous play.

23. Mar 2021 17:21 • huehnerlady • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Does BGA support games without it being a log? I mean you have that history also to be able to replay a match so could be a hard limit of BGA?

If not you could make that an option in the creation screen of a game to play with/without log and then the players can decide what they wanna do

15. May 2022 15:32 • leocaseiro • Dette er ikke en fejl:

As much as I agree with you, that there's a limitation on BGA platform, I don't think we could fix this issue. I suggest you don't read the logs.
Other than that, there isn't much I could do.

The way that BGA works, if we remove logs, we aren't able to get notified when another player triggers an action, such as playing a card.

15. May 2022 15:38 • dcorbin • Dette er ikke en fejl:

How does The Crew: Mission Deep Sea do it?

15. May 2022 17:54 • Tisaac • Dette er ikke en fejl:

It's just hidden in the client but it's still here if you look at the DOM inspector, so it depends what you define "can be examined"

16. May 2022 20:41 • leocaseiro • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Okay, I’ll add the the backlog to hide that from logs, similar what despesa is doing.

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