#32886: "Eliminate hidden trackable information (at least when playing async)"
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Detaljeret beskrivelse
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• Venligst kopier/indsæt fejlmeddelelsen du ser på din skærm, hvis der er en.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Venligst forklar hvad du ønsker at gøre, hvad du gjorde og hvad der skete
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Google Chrome v90
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• Venligst kopier/indsæt tekst vist på engelsk i stedet for dit sprog. Hvis du har et skærmbillede af denne fejl (god praksis), kan du bruge en billedlagertjeneste efter eget valg (snipboard.io for eksempel) til at uploade det og kopiere/indsætte linket her. er der adgang til denne tekst i oversættelsessystem? Hvis ja, er det blevet oversat inden for 24 timer?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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Google Chrome v90
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• Forklar venligst dit forslag præcist og sammenfattende, så det er så let som muligt at forstå, hvad du mener.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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Google Chrome v90
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• Hvad blev der vist på skærmen, da du blev blokeret (Blank skærm? Noget af spilbrugerfladen? Fejlmeddelelse?)
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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Google Chrome v90
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• Hvilken del af reglerne blev ikke respekteret ved BGA-tilpasningen
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Er regel-brudddet synligt i e
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Google Chrome v90
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• Hvad var den spilhandling du ønskede at udføre?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Hvad forsøgte du at gøre for at udløse denne spilhandling?
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• Hvad skete der, da du forsøgre at gøre dette (fejlmeddelelse, meddelelsesstatusbjælke, ...)?
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Google Chrome v90
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• I hvilket stadie af spillet opstod problemet (hvad var den daværende spilinstruktion)?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Hvad skete der, da du forsøgte at udføre denne spilhandling (fejlmeddelelse, meddelelsesstatusbjælke, ...)?
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Venligst beskriv display problemet. Hvis du har et skærmbillede af denne fejl (god praksis), kan du bruge en billedlagertjeneste efter eget valg (snipboard.io for eksempel) til at uploade det og kopiere/indsætte linket her.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Venligst kopier/indsæt tekst vist på engelsk i stedet for dit sprog. Hvis du har et skærmbillede af denne fejl (god praksis), kan du bruge en billedlagertjeneste efter eget valg (snipboard.io for eksempel) til at uploade det og kopiere/indsætte linket her. er der adgang til denne tekst i oversættelsessystem? Hvis ja, er det blevet oversat inden for 24 timer?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Forklar venligst dit forslag præcist og sammenfattende, så det er så let som muligt at forstå, hvad du mener.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v90
Rapporthistorik
Because in real life in it is difficult to remember how many pieces people have left unless you have a REALLY good memory (specially in 3-4 players games). Assisting players with such information, would, IMHO, ruin part of the spirit of the game. Of course, you can still browse through the logs and see that, but it is difficult, much more like in the live game. Perhaps as an option of people want it, but it will definitively not be by default.
Perhaps, showing the number of TOTAL pieces placed (or remaining) could be done as default, I have to think about this because as it does not require memory but just to count pieces on the booard, it is much more the spirit of the game.
There is a substantial cadre of gamers who play any game where all hidden information is strictly trackable (as it is here) with open hands, and that group also has significant overlap with the type of gamers who like these old school abstract placement euros. To have the option to play this way in the digital world would be great.
I'm not sure I get the "spirit of the game" argument. There's nothing else in the game to indicate that memory or bluffing etc is an intended mechanism or element of the competition in the game, nor do a player's holdings ever change except by removal (it's not like a hidden-money game where flows are going both in and out).
Thanks for considering the option.
With 2 players, it is a cut-throat battle where every move you make matters, and I don't even think that there is an argument for why that information shouldn't be displayed that's worth making. Why not just make it easier for both players when you are able to survey the complete state of the game by counting anyway?
With real competitive games against strangers where your ELO ranking is at stake though, this really just doesn’t make any sense.
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- Hvis du har et skærmbillede af denne fejl (god praksis), kan du bruge en billedlagertjeneste efter eget valg (snipboard.io for eksempel) til at uploade det og kopiere/indsætte linket her.
