#37708: "Hecate vs heroes"
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Hvis ja, venligst STEM for denne rapport. Rapporter med flest stemmer er dem der får PRIORITET!
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Detaljeret beskrivelse
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• Venligst kopier/indsæt fejlmeddelelsen du ser på din skærm, hvis der er en.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Venligst forklar hvad du ønsker at gøre, hvad du gjorde og hvad der skete
31 and 48
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Google Chrome v89
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• Venligst kopier/indsæt tekst vist på engelsk i stedet for dit sprog. Hvis du har et skærmbillede af denne fejl (god praksis), kan du bruge en billedhostingtjeneste efter eget valg (snipboard.io for eksempel) til at uploade det og kopiere/indsætte linket her. er der adgang til denne tekst i oversættelsessystem? Hvis ja, er det blevet oversat inden for 24 timer?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v89
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• Forklar venligst dit forslag præcist og sammenfattende, så det er så let som muligt at forstå, hvad du mener.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v89
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• Hvad blev der vist på skærmen, da du blev blokeret (Blank skærm? Noget af spilbrugerfladen? Fejlmeddelelse?)
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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Google Chrome v89
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• Hvilken del af reglerne blev ikke respekteret ved BGA-tilpasningen
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Er regel-brudddet synligt i e
31 and 48
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v89
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• Hvad var den spilhandling du ønskede at udføre?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Hvad forsøgte du at gøre for at udløse denne spilhandling?
31 and 48
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• Hvad skete der, da du forsøgre at gøre dette (fejlmeddelelse, meddelelsesstatusbjælke, ...)?
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Google Chrome v89
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• I hvilket stadie af spillet opstod problemet (hvad var den daværende spilinstruktion)?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Hvad skete der, da du forsøgte at udføre denne spilhandling (fejlmeddelelse, meddelelsesstatusbjælke, ...)?
31 and 48
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v89
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• Venligst beskriv display problemet. Hvis du har et skærmbillede af denne fejl (god praksis), kan du bruge en billedhostingtjeneste efter eget valg (snipboard.io for eksempel) til at uploade det og kopiere/indsætte linket her.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Venligst kopier/indsæt tekst vist på engelsk i stedet for dit sprog. Hvis du har et skærmbillede af denne fejl (god praksis), kan du bruge en billedhostingtjeneste efter eget valg (snipboard.io for eksempel) til at uploade det og kopiere/indsætte linket her. er der adgang til denne tekst i oversættelsessystem? Hvis ja, er det blevet oversat inden for 24 timer?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Forklar venligst dit forslag præcist og sammenfattende, så det er så let som muligt at forstå, hvad du mener.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Hvilken browser bruger du?
Google Chrome v89
Rapporthistorik
In cases where the interaction of two powers is too complex for us to code -or- if the interaction is causing confusion for BGA players -or- if we determine the interaction is very unfair, we will add more bans.
Some examples:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=21093 - too difficult to code
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=29287 - confusing
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=33571 - unfair
I think the official rules don't include *any* bans between normal gods and heroes, because they don't expect you to mix them in the same game (that's for expert players only). For example, the official rules do not ban Circe vs heroes, but this is clearly unfair and must be banned.
Also, the "How to play" page now lists the banned matchups for each power: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpsantorini
For Hecate vs Heroes, I think this can be fixed and am happy to help to reduce Hecate's ban list.
It is still my view that the treatment of hero powers vs God powers is incomplete at best, but mostly they did not consider these interactions at all. Remember, the official rules do not ban Clio vs. any heroes, but they should (it is not fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and discard it... nor is it fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and return it).
The situation with Hecate vs. heroes is the same. There's no fair way to resolve the problem of a partially-cancelled hero turn. Imagine a one-time power related to moving, where the hero's movement is valid but the building is not. It's not fair to cancel only the build portion of the turn and still discard the one-time power about movement (you wouldn't have wasted the one-time ability if you couldn't do the whole turn). Nor is it fair to let them keep the one-time power (since technically it was used). Nor is it fair to just cancel the entire turn. There's no good way to resolve this interaction. The rules here are completely broken. It should reman banned to remain fair.
I must disagree with you. I think Hecate vs Heroes should not be banned. The heroes can still use their power as in a normal game and if well used, it could be very difficult for Hecate to counter (for example, Bellerophon is a clear example of a hero that would be very strong against Hecate). The thing is, as an hero you have to make sure you use your power well. If you suspect Hecate might interrupt your turn, then just don't use your power at all and save it for later. I understand that implementing Hecate vs Heroes could lead to some changes (and that would be perfectly understandable)... But I wouldn't mind to play with an hero against Hecate, I wouldn't feel like I was in disadvantage.
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