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#46537: "Cannot know whether discarded tile is just drawn tile or a tile from hand"

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13. Aug 2021 23:04 • ufm • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

16. Aug 2021 19:02 • GTSchemer • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

As a point of comparison, FFXIV implements dark grey to indicate a drawn tile was immediately discarded: i.ytimg.com/vi/qEOJ6rP08gA/maxresdefault.jpg

Normal white tiles indicate a discard from the hand that was NOT the newly drawn tile.

Also, FFXIV uses a red coloring to indicate a discarded tile was called by another player.

17. Aug 2021 00:40 • gilthe • Dette forslag er endnu ikke analyseret af udviklerne:

Thanks for the info! In physical play, you can see of course which actual tile was discarded irrespective of discard or not. At the same time, nothing enforces hand-sorting in physical play, but it would be really inconvenient to not have it online. I think Tenhou shows discard identity but does not enforce shuffling, does anybody know for suret?
I don't have a complete overview, but it seems to me that clients are not homogeneous in this regard. Iirc the Yakuza 0 implementation obscures it completely. For me it was fine to obscure completely, but a second option could be added as suggested (distinguish discard of draw from all other cases), either graphically or by notification.I don't think this is a bug, though.

17. Aug 2021 00:40 • gilthe • Udviklerne er enige om, at det er en god idé, og har intentioner om at arbejde på det:

I reclassified this from bug to suggestion.

17. Aug 2021 00:40 • gilthe • Udviklerne er enige om, at det er en god idé, og har intentioner om at arbejde på det:

I reclassified this from bug to suggestion.

17. Aug 2021 00:47 • GTSchemer • Udviklerne er enige om, at det er en god idé, og har intentioner om at arbejde på det:

I agree it is a suggestion. I do not know about Tenhou, but in general I think having a grey coloring to indicate drawn tiles being discarded would be fair and not cause problems.

It is useful because if you see several grey discards in a row, you suspect someone is mostly happy with their hand, and is looking for something in particular.

17. Aug 2021 03:44 • ufm • Udviklerne er enige om, at det er en god idé, og har intentioner om at arbejde på det:

Yakuza 0 (the one developer mentioned), tenhou, and majsoul does not shade tiles discarded just after being drawn, however they indicate it by animation.
When a player draws a tile, the tile is placed on the rightmost side. If the tile is discarded it does not shuffled in. If kept, it gets shuffled in hand and another tile is discarded from hand.
Tenhou and majsoul display the information only during the replay though. I think that's why the developer thought it shows the identity during the game (found the screenshot or video but didn't know it being a replay).
FFXIV (the one GTSchemer brought) and SEGA MJ applies shading during the game.

To sum up, it is quite inconsistent but all clients/implementations notify the information in a manner.

17. Aug 2021 17:23 • gilthe • Udviklerne er enige om, at det er en god idé, og har intentioner om at arbejde på det:

Thanks @ufm, that's helpful.

I had indeed seen both live play and replay on tenhou in video before but confused the two last night (was late ;-)

17. Aug 2021 17:27 • GTSchemer • Udviklerne er enige om, at det er en god idé, og har intentioner om at arbejde på det:

Nice summary ufm! Of those options, the shading is the most async-friendly, but I'm not against animation as well if it's not overdone. I would just be afraid I'd miss it when I load up an async game.

31. Aug 2021 02:08 • nccc • Udviklerne er enige om, at det er en god idé, og har intentioner om at arbejde på det:

And could u HIGHLIGHT the card just discarded as well, ty!

25. Sep 2021 01:12 • gilthe • Dette forslag er blevet implementeret:

I implemented both source-of-tile highlighting (fresh draw or already in hand) and highlighting of the current active discard. Note that if automatic pass options are set, you might not see the current active discard highlighting because the tile is no longer claimable. The source of the tile is also reported in the notifications.

25. Sep 2021 04:10 • ufm • Dette forslag er blevet implementeret:

The log works well, but source-of-tile highlighting is somehow not applied even without autopass.

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