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#99347: "Color preferences ignored"

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23. Sep 2023 12:30 • agilmor • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Nothing.

23. Sep 2023 12:47 • Phoxtrot • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Has worked fine for me so far, but in alpha and beta

23. Sep 2023 12:53 • Phoxtrot • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Log states
The colors of agilmor have been chosen according to their preferences. Change my preferences.

If you tell us what your preferences are, devs could check if maybe grey is assimilated to white or something. Or maybe you forgot you had grey as your top choice (since very few games have grey as a color, it's easy to forget) ?

23. Sep 2023 12:57 • thoun • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Can you add more details as stated ?

23. Sep 2023 13:42 • Phoxtrot • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

I made two new tests after changing my color preferences and it worked everytime for me
- grey is working
- white is ignored as there is no white car
- pink is ignored as there is no pink car
- red is working

25. Sep 2023 09:23 • agilmor • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Thanks for looking at it.
My color preferences are: Green, Purple, Red and Black. In that order.
I'm getting grey a lot of times, I think that I've never got green.

25. Sep 2023 11:38 • Phoxtrot • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

Ok, made even more tests and there are indeed problems:
- With green as first color and red as second, I got the grey car (should have received green)
- With Kaki as first color (who ever does that?) and red as second, I got the Yellow car (should have received red)
- With cyan as first and red as second, I got the grey car
- With pink as first and blue as second, I got the red car
- violet-white-black gave me black instead of white
- violet-red-black did give me red

So there is some weird stuff going in.

25. Sep 2023 11:43 • Phoxtrot • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

oops, violet-white-black giving black is of course correct.
So there doesn't seem to be any problem with violet.
So it seems that green gives grey, kaki gives yellow, cyan gives grey and pink gives red.

25. Sep 2023 11:50 • Phoxtrot • Udviklerne har brug for mere information for at genskabe denne fejl:

I tried with railroad ink to see if all games have the same problems and while Kaki is also assimilated to yellow there, pink doesn't get assimilated to red. So it might be framework related but not entirely ? Weird.

25. Sep 2023 19:48 • TomKy • Fejlen er blevet bekræftet af udviklere:

I set green as preferance, but always most often ends up with the grey car

25. Sep 2023 20:54 • Tisaac • Dette er ikke en fejl:

I think it's just how the framework compute the closest color match, the game already use color preferences with bga framework feature.

26. Sep 2023 09:06 • agilmor • Dette er ikke en fejl:

Hi @Tissac,

I'm not certain where is the issue, but can you let me know how to get the green car in a solo game?
I'm not able to do it by having Green in my preferences, so it looks like something is wrong somewhere?

Thanks!
Albert

28. Sep 2023 21:55 • Thomas • Dette er ikke en fejl:

I do not get my prefered color, too.

example:
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=422689570

The game log said: "The colors of Thomas have been chosen according to their preferences.". My color preferences are 1. Green, 2. Khaki green, 3. Cyan and 4. Red. I was the only premium player at this table. My player color was gray. That is none of my configured prefered colors.

If you say, that this is not a bug of this game, but a bug of "how the bga framework computes the closest color match", then

i.) why do I get my prefered colors in all other games?

Could it be that the colors of the cars are not matching the colors offered in the BGA configuration?
e.g. in BGA configuration, Green is #1F8010 , but in HEAT the green car is #74A551, and that may be the reason, why the BGA framework can not match my prefered color with the color of the cars?

ii.) If you say, this is not a bug in the game implementation, then should we open a new report for the BGA framework to get this issue fixed?

28. Sep 2023 22:56 • Tisaac • Dette er ikke en fejl:

You can open a global bga bug if you want but i already discussed with admins that confirmed the bug. Computing a distance between color is not easy. The current bga algorithm tends to make green and gray close so this is what is happening on Heat

3. Oct 2023 09:21 • agilmor • Dette er ikke en fejl:

Thomas, Tissac, thanks for the explanations.
Based on your comments, I understand that, although this is not technically a Heat bug as Tisaac explains, it's also true that for some particular case (green preference) it's not working like most of the games in BGA.

Tisaac, do you think that we/you could change the "green" value in Heat (or the grey?) so the BGA's code computing the distance from the BGA's and Heat's greens is smaller than the BGA's green and Heat's grey?
I know that this will change the aesthetics of the game and maybe it's not the color that the publisher approved or similar.. but I think that it may be a good trade-off.

What do you think?

Thanks!
Albert

PS:
Seems that there are a couple of duplicates already:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=99892
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32736
I guess that any user having green in their BGA's preferences will eventually notice it.

3. Oct 2023 10:28 • Tisaac • Dette er ikke en fejl:

I suggested exactly that: change the colors in Heat to match BGA color list, but I was told to not change it and that they will work on this on their side.

3. Oct 2023 12:51 • agilmor • Dette er ikke en fejl:

Thanks Tissac!
I assume that "their side" is BGA framework, right?
Is there any bug open on that regards so we can keep an eye on it?

3. Oct 2023 13:28 • Tisaac • Dette er ikke en fejl:

Yes, "their side" is BGA admins that code and maintain the BGA framework.
I dont know if there is a specific bug report, but rest assured I will ping them regularly on that issue :)

3. Oct 2023 16:48 • agilmor • Dette er ikke en fejl:

Thanks Tisaac!
I'll try not to ping you that much here then... ;-)

12. Oct 2023 12:23 • agilmor • Dette er ikke en fejl:

The issue is still happening for the green preference in BGA being interpreted as grey in Heat.
I'm not certain if I should open a bug to for the BGA framework.
Tisaac, if you have any new, please let us know.
Thanks!

29. Oct 2023 21:31 • Tisaac • Dette er ikke en fejl:

It was implemented globally on BGA to be able to overwrite color algorithm by giving some per-game pairings so it should be better on Heat now.

30. Oct 2023 10:03 • agilmor • Dette er ikke en fejl:

Yes, it works now for green!
Thanks a lot Tisaac!

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