#42314: "Received zero “ELO” points for a win."

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I was playing a regular game (NOT a training mode game) with another player. We won the game and both players received zero ELO ranking points. This is a team-oriented game so it seems like we should both receive some points. Prior to this game my Tranquility ELO was 24, and the other player had an ELO of 89.
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3. jun 2021 2:16 • drachenkrieg • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

I had a prior game where I won, and I received a “First Victory” achievement. The weird thing was I had already won a few games before this point.

8. jul 2021 6:06 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This just happened to me. Again.
Table #185612388
Move #50
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8. jul 2021 18:55 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This just happened to me yet again.

Table #185738089
Move #52
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8. jul 2021 19:11 • jgibbs1116 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Tranquility #185743462

Happened to us on this game as well. We won but both got 0 points.

9. jul 2021 21:29 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This happened to me again today.
Table #186014043
Move #53
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11. jul 2021 0:30 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This just happened again today to me.
Table #186288578

12. jul 2021 1:18 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This just happened yet again.
Table #186526208
Move #47
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12. jul 2021 1:33 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This happened again on Table #186523298

14. jul 2021 3:10 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This just happened again. I have gotten 0 points all day today but it's the first time both players got zero points for a win. Please fix this soon.
Table #187003048
Move #51
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14. jul 2021 3:29 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Just happened again.

Table #187017390
Move #48
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17. jul 2021 3:36 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This happened again. Using Jagged Rocks card on Manual.
Table #187724482
Move #82
Progression 100%

18. jul 2021 1:23 • Brodicus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This just happened while using the jagged rocks manual play mode.
Table #187945201
Move #89
Progression 100%

18. jul 2021 22:40 • LEDave2020 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

This has happened to me 3 times this weekend - boards #188140005, #188062396, #187826997.

We won the game but neither player's ELO was increased. Very frustrating!!

18. jul 2021 22:41 • LEDave2020 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Correction - on #188140005 the other player got +1, i got nothing!!

24. jul 2021 22:14 • otterlimits • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

table 188852739 ipad air 2, 7 gen, ios 14.6
we won, neither of us received any points. second occurrence, same players.

27. jul 2021 0:50 • cgsunit • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

There needs to be some specific decisions made for cooperative games, I get that. And on the simple mode, not getting any ELO isn't a big deal. But I LOST one ELO point for a victory. That doesn't make *any* sense for what ELO might or might not be measuring. boardgamearena.com/7/tranquility?table=190005378

1. aug 2021 21:40 • chrysanthemum454 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

No ELO awarded for game #191136199 even though we won.

It's very frustrating when you're just trying to get to 100 ELO so you can play Arena!

2. aug 2021 22:07 • BronzeKnight • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

You think its frustrating to receive 0 ELO ? I have 570 ELO and what i get is negative for a win. You're punished if you play with good players, just like at Bridge. A victory with new players with bad ELO is worth more.

8. aug 2021 3:58 • chrysanthemum454 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Happened again - no ELO awarded to either player for game #192728161, and in response to the commenter above who assumed that this was happening because I was playing with high-ranked people, neither of us playing this game had ELO above 100.

13. aug 2021 3:12 • chrysanthemum454 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Table #193867409, we won, no ELO awarded. We were at 64 and 92 ELO respectively.

1. sep 2021 17:25 • Petro V • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

boardgamearena.com/table?table=198411422

Не нараховані ELO за перемогу

1. sep 2021 17:38 • Petro V • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Table #198411422

1. sep 2021 17:39 • Petro V • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Штиль n°198554904

21. sep 2021 1:06 • chrysanthemum454 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Table 203408924

29. sep 2021 11:16 • feldadventurer • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Haven't gotten any points for the last several games.

6. nov 2021 20:19 • SleepiusMaximus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Just happened to me too. Game link: boardgamearena.com/table?table=213181172

30. nov 2021 3:08 • nopeasaurus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Any news on this? Is it part of a larger conversation about ELO for collaborative games at BGA? Or does each developer decide for their own games?

4. dec 2021 4:00 • i3845l12 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Happened to me - boardgamearena.com/table?table=220482705

5. dec 2021 2:39 • i3845l12 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

boardgamearena.com/9/tranquility?table=221202835

5. jan 2022 4:16 • nopeasaurus • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

boardgamearena.com/6/tranquility?table=229577238
We are both "average" players, so it stands to reason that we should be able to win points, not lose points (!!!), if we win on an "average game" with no monsters or rocks.

9. mar 2022 21:02 • TotoroMom • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Received a 20 Victories medal and still haven’t even cleared 100 ELO, we both go +0 ELO. It’s a cooperative game, not a tie.

11. mar 2022 7:51 • TotoroMom • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

For comparison, I have 19 victories in Once Upon a Tree and 201 ELO.

1. apr 2022 5:13 • CorgiPants • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Adding another 0-point win, even with cards still left in both of our decks
Table 255186422

20. apr 2022 19:17 • Gergion • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Actually LOST a point of ELO because we won?!?
boardgamearena.com/9/tranquility?table=259868557
imgur.com/GWf1avH

This has been an issue for almost a year - and not a peep in response! >:(

21. dec 2022 20:10 • Gallea13 • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

the bug is almost present..... when we win the game ... we have zero ELO and sometimes we LOST ELO in winning the game....
pffffff .... one year and no answer for anyone....

7. jan 2023 18:11 • feldadventurer • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Tranquility #329454855
Zero ELO for both players when we won the game.
I love playing Tranquility but it is a bit of a bummer not to get ELO for games won. Please fix!

3. apr 2023 18:10 • rhisika • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Happened also in game Tranquility #363283039

6. okt 2023 21:18 • OutOfHabit • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Please look into this one. Receiving negative ELO when winning is dumb.

29. dec 2023 1:02 • xodoj • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Happened two games in a row to me. I win and receive 0 elo, opponent get -2

boardgamearena.com/table?table=455319001
boardgamearena.com/table?table=455312892

27. jun 2024 4:29 • niraD • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

I've noticed that I haven't gained any ELO when I've won (2 player) games of Tranquility. My first game of Tranquility was a few days ago, so the ELO system was working recently. It appeared to be working fairly normally for a cooperative game (1 ELO for everyone for winning a basic game, more for winning harder games, nothing for losing). But at some point (maybe sometime today), it stopped awarding ELO sometimes when we win the game.

Please fix the bug with ELO in the game Tranquility.

Here are the last few tables I've played.

This one, I gained no ELO even though we won:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=530241277

This one, I gained 1 ELO when we won.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=530258865

This one, I gained 1 ELO when we won.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=530268355

This one, I gained no ELO even though we won:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=530260097

30. jun 2024 0:29 • 4everblessed • Fejlen er ikke blevet reproduceret af udviklere endnu:

Table 531385366 and game before that - we won the game but got no points. It said that we should be awarded 1 point after each game. Both games were real-time, normal, 2 -player, jagged rocks option on.

30. sep 2024 16:35 • ufm • Bug er blevet fixet:

Completely changed the rating system, as artificial ELO simulation in solo/co-op is now deprecated.

From now on, the rating never drops, even on defeat.
When players win, they gain rating equal to Player count × 2 × Each difficulty multiplier (cumulative).

- Jagged Rocks: × 1.5
- Sea Monsters: × (0.5 + Number of Sea Monsters / 4)
- Island Card Removal: × (1 + Number of removed cards / 8)

For example, if 4 players beat Galateia, 5 Sea Monsters, Jagged Rocks game, they gain 4 × 2 × 1.5 × 1.75 × 1.5 = 31 (rounded down) rating points.

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